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They’re also less likely to encounter language barriers, resort to costly emergency room visits or forgo care.

Asked by Mix what he thought of artists forgoing producers to make their own records, Baker compared the decision to “someone wanting to be their own lawyer in court” and advised against it.

They are also worried about businesses canceling conferences and cutting travel expenses, and families forgoing vacations because of heightening economic pressures.

Countries forgo the Olympics for political reasons all the time.

But now, Hawken is forgoing straightforward metrics to focus on what he sees as a deeper cultural problem.